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Old 25-02-16, 11:56
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Harness now lifed for Racing Cars

I have just been told that harnesses are now lifed at 5 years by virtue of FIA Homologation. This has been sneaked in to the Blue Book and few seem to know about it. Another nail in the coffin for speed events. How long before it is applied to all classes and to seats? The "occasional competitor" will be a thing of the past.

S10.1.11. Hill Climb Super Sports Cars, Sports Libre Cars and Racing Cars must be equipped with a currently
homologated FIA safety harness complying with K.2.1.3 or K.2.1.4.

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Old 25-02-16, 12:18
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I have just found this out as well and had to buy new belts. I was hoping to get a new belt later in the year to spread my costs but guess what!!
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Old 25-02-16, 12:38
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The year indicates the end of homologation, so 2016 means that belts can be used up until end of 2016, so I get one years use out of my belts

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Old 25-02-16, 12:42
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This will catch many out. I purchased a new TRS harness from a well known purveyor of used race cars on here(no names no pack drill) a couple of years ago. I've just noticed it is dated 2017 so will have to be replaced when I have had the harness only 4 years in total! I can't blame my supplier because when I bought the harness there was no lifing on speed event harnesses and because of this I didn't check the date at the time.
The lesson here is if buying new harnesses check the dates because if they've been on the shelf for a while you could well be getting less than you pay for!
Perhaps there's also a lesson here for suppliers to purge stocks regularly and hold clearance sales of reduced life products?

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I guess its the same with helmets. Snell 2015 helmets haven't materialised yet so people are still buying Snell 2010 helmets which have a reduced life span compared to the Snell 2015 ones if there were available
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Old 25-02-16, 12:59
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I am led to believe that the Snell 2010 spec helmets have had a life extension to 2023 ? if so is that in line with Snell 2015 ?
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I am led to believe that the Snell 2010 spec helmets have had a life extension to 2023 ? if so is that in line with Snell 2015 ?
Snell 2015 ones should be for 5 years after 2010 ones expire
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Whilst I sympathise with folk on restricted budgets I think it is worth considering that 5 seasons out in the sun (hopefully) can degrade the webbing together with the normal use and potential damage from tools etc. The cost of a new harness is small compared to that of having all your meals through a straw and 24 hour nursing.

For those caught out, you could do worse than the bog standard 6 point from TRS, deal direct and speak to James Ledamun the price could surprise you. Buy in December to get full homologation.
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Whilst I sympathise with folk on restricted budgets I think it is worth considering that 5 seasons out in the sun (hopefully) can degrade the webbing together with the normal use and potential damage from tools etc. The cost of a new harness is small compared to that of having all your meals through a straw and 24 hour nursing.

For those caught out, you could do worse than the bog standard 6 point from TRS, deal direct and speak to James Ledamun the price could surprise you. Buy in December to get full homologation.
Good advice from Nick but make sure you measure you old belts, I just purchased a TRS belt for my single seater and thought I was getting like for like to find out the shoulder straps where 6 inches shorter than my old set, they where both the same model but years apart in manufacture. Had to return them as could not do the belts up
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This will catch many out. I purchased a new TRS harness from a well known purveyor of used race cars on here(no names no pack drill) a couple of years ago. I've just noticed it is dated 2017 so will have to be replaced when I have had the harness only 4 years in total! I can't blame my supplier because when I bought the harness there was no lifing on speed event harnesses and because of this I didn't check the date at the time.
The lesson here is if buying new harnesses check the dates because if they've been on the shelf for a while you could well be getting less than you pay for!
Perhaps there's also a lesson here for suppliers to purge stocks regularly and hold clearance sales of reduced life products?

Rich
Rich,

The cynic in me might suppose that reseller stock could be on sale or return with the manufacturer who could then re-label +12 months and return for sale, I can't believe that there are a stockpile of lifed belts sitting with the manufacturers?
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