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Old 21-10-16, 11:39
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Rotary should have a much higher multiplier, 1.4 is silly although Mazda owners like to think their engines are 1/3 the size they really are.

Although havent they listed a boost multiplier for the standard class as 1.7 ?
Rotary multiplier is x1.5
compound with forced induction if applicable
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10.3.1. (2017 Regs) Except as per 11.9.1.4. Forced induction equivalence 1.4.
S10.3.2. Rotary engine equivalence 1.5. Forced
induction rotary equivalence (1.4 x 1.5) = 2.1.
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S11.9.1.4. Forced induction equivalence 1.7.
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Old 23-10-16, 17:36
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It will add a route in with lower costs, if clubs create "Standard" classes (or divisions).
How? You would be competing against others in effectively showroom-spec cars, not road going cars which have been modified with suspension changes, turbochargers, part-striped interiors, performance tyres etc.
But we have that already - the ability for a club to create a standard class. Many clubs do this and have done so for years. When they were suggesting less ppe it made sense, but like this, it's utterly pointless.
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Old 24-10-16, 09:36
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Give that there are already so many clubs/championships running Standard classes I wonder what the up-take will be for the MSA's version? My guess would be very few.
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Old 24-10-16, 10:52
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But we have that already - the ability for a club to create a standard class. Many clubs do this and have done so for years. When they were suggesting less ppe it made sense, but like this, it's utterly pointless.
Up in Scotland, there is, as far as I'm aware, no Standard Class, so was biased based on my knowledge of the classes up here.

I agree the attraction of the proposal has been diluted by the need to have all the driver's equipment, as per Road Going Categories
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I have to say I think it's a great idea in principle but can't help but feel they could have gone a bit further.
I'd have preferred to see it a sub 1600cc category, maybe to even make it a four seater alongside the 1A reg.
If the idea as Renny suggests is to limit power, giving someone the option to turn up with an S2000 for instance isn't covering that base.
Run it with no Air Intake or exhaust mods on four seater cars with 1A's and you've got people out there seriously considering this as a hobby.
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Old 22-11-16, 11:26
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Run it with no Air Intake or exhaust mods on four seater cars with 1A's and you've got people out there seriously considering this as a hobby.
If an event or championship organiser splits the standard car class into two and four seat cars, or just cars with four seats then you've got the above
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If an event or championship organiser splits the standard car class into two and four seat cars, or just cars with four seats then you've got the above
As the take up in the STANDARD classes is low then rather than splits you often see amalgamations. The problem from an organisers point of view is that the proliferation of classes means a potential additional expense for trophies which may not be warranted by the returns. Currently the two litre class seems to attract a reasonable entry (5 or 6) whilst the Up to 1400 and Over 2 litre classes struggle to get more than 2 each.
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