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Old 14-09-17, 09:37
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I was talking to a start line marshal a while ago & they said that it was surprising how many of the bike engine'd cars kicked forward when they put the car into gear. This triggered the timing before they raised the revs & launched. ???.
It probably didn't trigger the timing but I realised a marshal had that misconception at Prescott the other week so others might think the same.

There are two beams and two alignment lights. The car needs to be lined up so as only one light is on (both off is normally too far back, both on too far forward). Some cars when put into gear do jerk forward, which can turn the second light on, but that is not connected to the start beam and will come on about 10cm before they get to the line. So since there are two beams and two lights the marshal thought the second light came on when they crossed the start beam and so the clock was getting started early when it actually wasn't. From the start line you can't reliably tell if the clock has started or not.
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Old 14-09-17, 10:11
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In your first reply you mention the start line crew holding the car. This is something that should not happen as it is a recipe for disaster. If a car creeps on a level start line then it is not the responsibility of the marshals to hold the car . MIRA is an exception as the start is downhill and cars roll. But the Startline crew there release their hold when they consider the car is about to move . This is normally when the revs start to rise which probably explains Grahams anomolous time .
I would expect with a properly trained and experienced startline crew that they would know how to "hold a car on the line" without any chance of injury to themselves.
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Old 14-09-17, 10:54
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I have watched many car jump on the start line when engaging a gear.

I have never understood why you cannot go to the line in gear? for the sake of maybe a couple of minutes holding the clutch what is the problem. it also ensures that the gear is correctly engaged.

And the next one is where have you ever been where the line marshals do not hold the car on the start line?

as always just saying and am sure i am wrong.
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Old 14-09-17, 10:56
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The start line crew at Gurston Down very good at holding cars on a slope.
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Old 14-09-17, 11:34
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And the next one is where have you ever been where the line marshals do not hold the car on the start line?
Shelsley , Prescott , Loton . Bouley Bay Val des Terres, Eschdorf Ecce Homo

OK so they do use a chock. and apart from Loton all have uphill startlines

Yes I have seen a marshal take a tumble because he was holding a car,
yes I have seen the marshals glove go with the car because it got caught in the wing.
I have also see marshals holding on to the tyre .

I have seen marshals use the wheel spokes to move the car.

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Old 14-09-17, 11:59
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Told you i would get it wrong. i am not sure anyone really likes Hill Climbing it all seems a bit doom and gloom.

But i might be wrong, i will just go and get some popcorn
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Old 14-09-17, 12:55
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Told you i would get it wrong. i am not sure anyone really likes Hill Climbing it all seems a bit doom and gloom.
Unlike sprinting it does have its up and downs

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Unlike sprinting it does have its up and downs

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Old 14-09-17, 18:46
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