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Old 23-06-17, 13:27
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A few years ago S&HSC pulled the rug out from under Imp based kit cars and lumped then in with the Westfields et al. in modified. My Davrian hasn't been seen in competition since. Not that the shoulder on my spanner wielding arm is working properly at the moment, so I couldn't do any serious work on it, even if I wanted to.
Not only the cars powered by Imp engines were affected when they changed things, in the up to 1400cc class there used to be quite a collection of normal car engine based cars used. A series and Metro engines in Mini Marcos/Jem & GTM's, Westfields with X flow and CVH's and even some early Sylva's that had small Vauxhall engines in them. They all seemed to have similar power outputs and some hills suited the handling/power delivery better than others, which meant most of the time the results were pretty close.

The cars are still around, but the cc breaks in some the classes (apart from B1 in the ASWMC) don't encourage you to use them any more.
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Old 23-06-17, 13:36
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The diagonal across your head in a cage design with a fabric roof car, sports or saloon, came from me, and this started with a casual conversation with the scrutineer at the time my car was log booked.
As the roof is quite large the car would be essentially open topped if inverted in a crash, so engineer to engineer we thought it would be a good thing, but nothing in the BBook.
If the sun roof hole is filled in by a riveted panel of aluminium I personally would still have the diagonal as a serious thought, steel would be like a normal factory roof if we'll riveted down.
Just that conversation sticking in my mind and a touch of common sense.

All this was in about 1997, 20 years ago.
A year later I hit a tree at the top Esse at Shelsley Walsh, shortened the 911 by an inch on the impact side, glad to have a cage as I said earlier...
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Old 26-06-17, 09:07
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A few years ago S&HSC pulled the rug out from under Imp based kit cars and lumped then in with the Westfields et al. in modified. My Davrian hasn't been seen in competition since. Not that the shoulder on my spanner wielding arm is working properly at the moment, so I couldn't do any serious work on it, even if I wanted to.
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Old 26-06-17, 15:48
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Renny,

just wanted to check about the sunroof question, which started this thread, as we seem to have gone a bit off tangent with the ROPs being raised.

I'd asked "What are the regs to look at regarding a webasto type full length sunroof on a specialist/series production sports car?

Am I right in thinking the area where the sunroof is will need to be blanked over with a panel?"

I wasn't sure where to find that detail in the"blue book", it doesn't matter now about the original car my mate had been thinking about. But before he looks at another sports or saloon car, I assume a factory fitted steel roof is OK and would not require any alterations? But if it's a glass panel type then if it's window filmed with 100 micron film is that OK and if it's a webasto type is that a bigger problem?

Steve
Apologies Steve,

there is no need to do anything, but if a glass roof the suggestion of a plastic film would be a great idea to reduce the mess created if the glass breaks. Certainly it would be required for Racing, but not Speed events.
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Old 26-06-17, 17:25
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Apologies Steve,

there is no need to do anything, but if a glass roof the suggestion of a plastic film would be a great idea to reduce the mess created if the glass breaks. Certainly it would be required for Racing, but not Speed events.
Hi Renny,

thanks for the advice.

I knew about the racing requirement and for some reason thought it would be the same for speed events.

If it does end up with a glass sunroof, then I'll film it with ASF, as I've usually got that in stock for work anyway.

Steve
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